According to the United States Department of Veterans Affairs, around 20 veterans die by suicide each day. In this session, Julie will examine some of the reasons for this crisis and discuss ways we can all be better equipped in reaching veterans. Veterans participated in training facilitated by Julie and took the ESAP© (Nelson & Low). Group discussions followed. The presentation will examine some of the findings. Learning Objectives. 1. Examine the mental outlook of some veterans. Activities to follow. 2. How to use Thought VS Feeling by using the chart on p. 3 of Emotional Intelligence – Achieving Academic and Career Excellence (Nelson & Low), when working with veterans in the disruptive state. 3. Rehearse what is to be said. (p. 30 of Emotional Intelligence – Achieving Academic and Career Excellence (Nelson & Low). Set the stage for necessary conditions to exist in order to change the emotional mind.